• Our President doesn't wan

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to jimmylogan on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 08:57:15
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: jimmylogan to Dumas Walker on Tue Nov 25 2025 20:37:23

    I think if you look into that, the last 2 or 3 Presidents have been much worse -- far beyond the point of abuse -- than most others when it comes to "day one" executive orders.

    Executive orders are like a CEO making changes that don't require
    board apporoval - and your'e right, there have been a lot of 'day one' things done. And I think it will continue.

    Yeah, IMHO, the executive order is not inherently a bad thing if it is used correctly. It should be used as a stop-gap measure, until Congress can pass a law, or in emergencies only. With recent Presidents, it is becoming more a way to create "law" without going through the proper channels, and hoping that Congress and the courts don't question it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, November 26, 2025 23:20:42
    Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: Dumas Walker to jimmylogan on Wed Nov 26 2025 08:57 am

    one' things done. And I think it will continue.

    Yeah, IMHO, the executive order is not inherently a bad thing if it
    is used correctly. It should be used as a stop-gap measure,
    until Congress can pass a law, or in emergencies only. With recent Presidents, it is becoming more a way to create "law" without
    going through the proper channels, and hoping that Congress and the
    courts don't question it.


    well if you think about it people want results quick. every president uses executive orders. A president can not create laws, they can only sign bills. if you noticed each time trump was president nothing was getting done in regards to the legislative branch. the dems were always after trump.

    infact i was a victim of that because i was waiting for a tax change to be implimented which was all clear and it wasn't was because they were either [1]going after trump [2] going on breaks.

    Executive orders are proper channels. He's using his power correctly.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Thursday, November 27, 2025 10:01:31
    Dumas Walker wrote to jimmylogan <=-

    Yeah, IMHO, the executive order is not inherently a bad thing if it is used correctly. It should be used as a stop-gap measure, until
    Congress can pass a law, or in emergencies only. With recent
    Presidents, it is becoming more a way to create "law" without going through the proper channels, and hoping that Congress and the courts
    don't question it.

    These are strange times. Barack Obama averaged 35 orders per year
    during his terms. Donald Trump 45, 55 per year - mostly overturning
    egislation
    that Obama passed. Biden averaged 41 per year , again, undoing some of
    Trump's attempts to circumvent laws passed under Obama. On Trump's
    second term, Trump has signed 217 orders, with an obedient majority in
    the house and senate.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, November 28, 2025 02:39:24
    Re: Re: Our President doesn't wan
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Thu Nov 27 2025 1

    These are strange times. Barack Obama averaged 35 orders per year

    these arent strange times in regards to executive orders. it's normal for a president to have executive orders. people like you would say he was a liar and doesn't do anything if he just depended on the leg. branch.

    egislation that Obama passed. Biden averaged 41 per year , again,
    undoing some of Trump's attempts to circumvent laws passed under

    biden flat out reversed everything trump did. it wasnt about obama.
    biden didnt even know what he was signing to during that time and most of his presidency. there's proof of that.

    Obama. On Trump's second term, Trump has signed 217 orders, with an
    obedient majority in the house and senate.

    keep counting.

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