Chicago blames northwest Indiana towns such as South Bend for the guns in chicago. Granted, South Bend has it's own troubles, however the streets do not flow with blood like Chicago's mayor would make you belive.
It goes well beyond mental health. Crazy people are a minority
of shooters when compared to organized crime and gang murders.
No argument there. I may have been thinking more along the lines of
"school shooters" when I said that. In that sub-category, I think the crazies dominate.
No argument there. I may have been thinking more along the lines of "school shooters" when I said that. In that sub-category, I think the crazies dominate.
Until the urge to become famous because so prevalent, I think a lot of
these mass shooter kids would have been the ones that committed suicide
when I was high school aged. Now they shoot a bunch of other people first.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
It goes well beyond mental health. Crazy people are a minority
of shooters when compared to organized crime and gang murders.
No argument there. I may have been thinking more along the lines of
"school shooters" when I said that. In that sub-category, I think the crazies dominate.
Until the urge to become famous because so prevalent, I think a
lot of these mass shooter kids would have been the ones that
committed suicide when I was high school aged. Now they shoot a
bunch of other people first.
Chicago blames northwest Indiana towns such as South Bend for the guns in chicago. Granted, South Bend has it's own troubles, however the streets d not flow with blood like Chicago's mayor would make you belive.
During a trip through NW Indiana last fall, I saw a whole bunch of
fireworks stores. I only saw one or two gun stores. This was on US 41 and US 12, just outside of Chicago and beyond to Michigan City.
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No argument there. I may have been thinking more along the lines of "school shooters" when I said that. In that sub-category, I think the crazies dominate.
Until the urge to become famous because so prevalent, I think a lot of these mass shooter kids would have been the ones that committed suicide when I was high school aged. Now they shoot a bunch of other people firs
If I found my school was ruining my life to the point I wanted to die, then setting the school on fire with everybody who I thought was ruining my life inside would look reasonable. Perpretators of school massacres have this tendency to kill themselves as a final act of victory too: they kill themsel
so society is deprived of the delight of keeping on hurting them.
The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is broken past th point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.
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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
It goes well beyond mental health. Crazy people are a minority
of shooters when compared to organized crime and gang murders.
No argument there. I may have been thinking more along the lines of "school shooters" when I said that. In that sub-category, I think the crazies dominate.
Until the urge to become famous because so prevalent, I think a
lot of these mass shooter kids would have been the ones that
committed suicide when I was high school aged. Now they shoot a
bunch of other people first.
Yup. :-(
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If I found my school was ruining my life to the point I wanted to die, then setting the school on fire with everybody who I thought was ruining my life inside would look reasonable. Perpretators of school massacres have this tendency to kill themselves as a final act of victory too: they kill themselve
so society is deprived of the delight of keeping on hurting them.
The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is broken past the point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.
If I found my school was ruining my life to the point I wanted to die, the setting the school on fire with everybody who I thought was ruining my lif inside would look reasonable. Perpretators of school massacres have this tendency to kill themselves as a final act of victory too: they kill thems
so society is deprived of the delight of keeping on hurting them.
The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is broken past point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.
In the case of the Uvalde school shooter, and some others also, they are
not students at the school they shoot up. The Uvalde shooter picked a school with kids several years younger than he in attendance. I am not
even sure he was still in school but, if he was, it would have been a high school where kids close to his age attended.
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Realistically, if they *REALLY* wanted to cut down on gun violence,
they'd be trying to outlaw handguns, not rifles (AR-15 etc) to begin
with. The vast majority of gun violence and gun related crimes (armed robbery, etc) is done with a handgun... but those aren't the ones that typically make the headlines and are exceedingly rare.
Note: this is not an endorsement of the idea, just pointing out the ignorance and hypocrisy.
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a
"mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed
each day by handguns.
Definitely true. Chicago probably tops that list. The city with the strictest gun laws anywhere. What they forget is that criminals don't
obey laws.
I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some of them just
think that guns are scary and we are better off with less of them, but
the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be equally as scary.
Gamgee wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be
resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some
of them just think that guns are scary and we are better off with
less of them, but the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be
equally as scary.
Yes, it should be just as scary. What I honestly think is that those
who think more gun laws will fix the problem is that they actually are
NOT interested in fixing the real problem. What they are interested
in doing is increasing the amount of control that they can have over another group of people. It's really very petty and selfish, but
that's the actual truth.
He was in high school. From what I read, he was an outcast with a learning di
sability and was picked on and had no friends. He had a frined he used to hang out with until the kid's family moved away. He was in his senior year, and the school would place pictures of the seniors on the light poles in town. Somehow his picture was left out. He received teasing about that as well. Sounds liek the kid had a shitty time in school, but that only explains why he might have snapped, but doesn't excuse it. he proabably picked the elementary school because it was an easy target.
He was in high school. From what I read, he was an outcast with a learning di
sability and was picked on and had no friends. He had a frined he used to hang out with until the kid's family moved away. He was in his senior year,
and the school would place pictures of the seniors on the light poles in town. Somehow his picture was left out. He received teasing about that as
well. Sounds liek the kid had a shitty time in school, but that only explains why he might have snapped, but doesn't excuse it. he proabably picked the elementary school because it was an easy target.
You are right, it does not excuse it. However, if I was one of those kids that picked on him, I would be rethinking my ways right about now.
As you point out in another message, even if some of the kids do rethink their ways, it probably won't have a lasting affect. :(
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I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be
resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some
of them just think that guns are scary and we are better off with
less of them, but the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be
equally as scary.
Yes, it should be just as scary. What I honestly think is that those
who think more gun laws will fix the problem is that they actually are
NOT interested in fixing the real problem. What they are interested
in doing is increasing the amount of control that they can have over another group of people. It's really very petty and selfish, but
that's the actual truth.
Those who the true power behind the push for gun control laws
desire one outcome. They are seeking to disarm the American
populace so that they may increase their power and influence over
the general population. The Second Amendment is the protector of
the entire Bill of Rights. Those who would impose severe gun
restrictions upon us are the ones who desire to impose further
limits upon our constitutional rights.
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Realistically, if they *REALLY* wanted to cut down on gun violence, they'd be trying to outlaw handguns, not rifles (AR-15 etc) to begin with. The vast majority of gun violence and gun related crimes (armed robbery, etc) is done with a handgun... but those aren't the ones that typically make the headlines and are exceedingly rare.
Note: this is not an endorsement of the idea, just pointing out the ignorance and hypocrisy.
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.
Suffice it to say more people are killed by handguns each year than by rifle of any time.
Suicides account for more firearms related deaths each year than any other. Rifles of any type are seldom utilized in suicide attempts.
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human life. T cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the society in which we live.
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He was in high school. From what I read, he was an outcast with a learnin sability and was picked on and had no friends. He had a frined he used to hang out with until the kid's family moved away. He was in his senior yea and the school would place pictures of the seniors on the light poles in town. Somehow his picture was left out. He received teasing about that a well. Sounds liek the kid had a shitty time in school, but that only explains why he might have snapped, but doesn't excuse it. he proabably picked the elementary school because it was an easy target.
You are right, it does not excuse it. However, if I was one of those kids that picked on him, I would be rethinking my ways right about now.
As you point out in another message, even if some of the kids do rethink their ways, it probably won't have a lasting affect. :(
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The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human life. The
cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the society in which we live.
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human life. cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the society in which we live.
Agreed.
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A few weeks ago on a Facebook thread I cited an article from about 10 years ag
o a local 8 year old killed his 4 year old brother over the last bowl of cereal left in the box. A commenter said "boys will be boys," as if this was acceptable behavior. Not in my parent's house. Not in my neighborhood would something like that happen.
A few weeks ago on a Facebook thread I cited an article from about 10 year o a local 8 year old killed his 4 year old brother over the last bowl of cereal left in the box. A commenter said "boys will be boys," as if this acceptable behavior. Not in my parent's house. Not in my neighborhood wo something like that happen.
That is a rather callous, desensitized reaction that commenter had, assuming it was not sarcasm. My parents would not have put up with violent, agressive behavior, either.
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