• What are you reading.

    From knightwise@VERT/BEERS20 to All on Friday, June 17, 2022 10:51:00
    So: What books are you reading right now. (+ are you doing it digitally or on paper)

    me:
    For stretching my brain: "The elephant in the Universe" by Govert Schilling (a book about dark matter in our universe)

    For relaxing: "The Hynek Ufo Report": Alan Hynek's view on 'Project Blue book' that investigated UFO sightings in the 60's

    both books can be found electronically at b-ok.xyz
    ý

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  • From cj@VERT/CJSPLACE to knightwise on Saturday, June 18, 2022 20:18:20
    Re: What are you reading.
    By: knightwise to All on Fri Jun 17 2022 10:51 am

    So: What books are you reading right now. (+ are you doing it digitally or on paper)

    Caliban's War by James S.A. Corey, part of The Expanse series. Watched the series on Amazon, now reading the books....well, listening to the books. :)

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  • From knightwise@VERT/BEERS20 to cj on Saturday, June 18, 2022 23:06:00
    Those are awesome awesome books. When you get through all of them you will appreciate the show even more. Its great writing and worldbuilding. I love the entire series (Read some on paper and some on my Kindle). Factastic hard-scifi. If you like it , also take a look at seveneves by Neal Stephenson.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@VERT/SYNCNIX to knightwise on Sunday, June 19, 2022 09:47:00
    knightwise wrote to All <=-

    So: What books are you reading right now. (+ are you doing it digitally
    or on paper)

    Paradoxes and Dragons, Vol 2 - Joseph Lallo. Just some short, some incomplete, stories that seem interesting. Most of his other series are very entertaining.

    Draw Straight by Louis L'Amour - I've been very interested in westerns over the last few years. William Johnstone and Charles Alden Seltzer have been really good too.

    For work: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software by Eric Evans. Not as helpful as I had hoped. But we are doing a book club on this one.

    Virus Mania: How the Medical Industry Continually Invents Epidemics - by many doctors. Just started on this one.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to knightwise on Sunday, June 19, 2022 17:37:00
    knightwise wrote to All <=-

    So: What books are you reading right now. (+ are you doing it digitally
    or on paper)

    I just finished "The Every", by Dave Eggers, the sequel to "The Circle".


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  • From bex@VERT/AMIGAC to knightwise on Sunday, July 03, 2022 16:32:00
    knightwise wrote to All <=-

    So: What books are you reading right now. (+ are you doing it digitally
    or on paper)

    I have books spread out all over, eBooks, audiobooks, physical books... The ones I am paying most attention to are Cory Doctorow's "Attack Surface" and "Framed" b S. L. McInnis.





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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to bex on Sunday, July 03, 2022 19:39:24
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: bex to knightwise on Sun Jul 03 2022 04:32 pm

    I have books spread out all over, eBooks, audiobooks, physical books... The ones I am paying most attention to are Cory Doctorow's "Attack Surface" and

    cory used to call bbses years ago.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sunday, July 03, 2022 19:47:23
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: MRO to bex on Sun Jul 03 2022 07:39 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: bex to knightwise on Sun Jul 03 2022 04:32 pm

    I have books spread out all over, eBooks, audiobooks, physical books... The ones I am paying most attention to are Cory Doctorow's "Attack Surface" and

    cory used to call bbses years ago.

    We had user/sysop with the alias "Dr Corey" for many years. Is that who you're thinking of?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Monday, July 04, 2022 00:22:16
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Jul 03 2022 07:47 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: MRO to bex on Sun Jul 03 2022 07:39 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: bex to knightwise on Sun Jul 03 2022 04:32 pm

    I have books spread out all over, eBooks, audiobooks, physical books... The ones I am paying most attention to are Cory Doctorow's "Attack Surface" and

    cory used to call bbses years ago.

    We had user/sysop with the alias "Dr Corey" for many years. Is that who you're thinking of?

    no it's this guy https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/725346394626789376
    he got back into calling bbses for a while and he called mine and a few others. He used to call bbses years ago and wrote a bunch of articles about it.

    I think he called our bbses like over 10 years ago.
    i don't think he did much other than look around for a minute.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to bex on Monday, July 04, 2022 09:30:00
    bex wrote to knightwise <=-

    I have books spread out all over, eBooks, audiobooks, physical books... The ones I am paying most attention to are Cory Doctorow's "Attack Surface" and "Framed" b S. L. McInnis.

    I love physical books but love reading on a Kindle. Does anyone else buy the physical book then find a pdf or ebook format to read it on?


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, July 14, 2022 17:39:33
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Gamgee on Wed Jul 13 2022 04:32 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jul 13 2022 08:01 am

    Part of what I was saying (which you didn't include in your
    quote) was that I doubt a car maker would even know what politics Ni>>> their customers have. How would they know that?

    Well, even if you pay cash, they'll try to run a credit report. There's a to

    In this dystopian nightmare we're all sliding into where your information is


    In Spain it is illegal to use cash to purchase anything remotely expensive. Suckers here want to track it all.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Friday, July 15, 2022 02:04:00
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Jul 14 2022 05:39 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Gamgee on Wed Jul 13 2022 04:32 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jul 13 2022 08:01 am

    Part of what I was saying (which you didn't include in your
    quote) was that I doubt a car maker would even know what politics Ni>>> their customers have. How would they know that?

    Well, even if you pay cash, they'll try to run a credit report. There's a

    In this dystopian nightmare we're all sliding into where your information


    In Spain it is illegal to use cash to purchase anything remotely expensive. Suckers here want to track it all.

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    Here in the US they would like to phase out some of the larger bills for the same reason. Farmers tend to pay cash. I ran into a neighbor at the farm supply store, and he looked unhappy. He told me he was there to buy a $3500 zero turn radius mower, and the salesman kept asking if he wanted to apply
    for the store's credit card and get a discount. He kept saying no. He got
    mad and asked to see the manager, then the manager tired pushing their store card to him. When he said he was going to pay cash, they asked which bank
    his check was coming from. He told the manager he gives up and will
    shop elsewhere. Of all the years I've known the guy, when he leaves the
    house to shop, he has around $5000 in cash. When he said he'll pay in cash, h e meant it.

    People who buy and trade used cars also do cash transactions because cash is
    no hassle and can be re-spent easily.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Friday, July 15, 2022 09:05:51
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Fri Jul 15 2022 02:04 am

    Here in the US they would like to phase out some of the larger bills for the same reason. Farmers tend to pay cash. I ran into a neighbor at the farm supply store, and he looked unhappy. He told me he was there to buy a $3500 zero turn radius mower, and the salesman kept asking if he wanted to apply for the store's credit card and get a discount. He kept saying no. He got mad and asked to see the manager, then the manager tired pushing their store card to him. When he said he was going to pay cash, they asked which bank his check was coming from. He told the manager he gives up and

    When you said cash, I thought you meant actual cash, but I suppose a check is pretty much equivalent.

    will shop elsewhere. Of all the years I've known the guy, when he leaves the house to shop, he has around $5000 in cash. When he said he'll pay in cash, h e meant it.

    People who buy and trade used cars also do cash transactions because cash is no hassle and can be re-spent easily.

    Yeah, I sometimes like paying in cash because it's less hassle. Cash in the US also has the phrase "This is legal tender for all debts private and public" printed on it. I thought that meant you legally have to accept cash for payment and can't make customers use another form of payment if they want to use cash.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Friday, July 15, 2022 13:54:40
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Fri Jul 15 2022 02:04 am

    for the store's credit card and get a discount. He kept saying no. He got mad and asked to see the manager, then the manager tired pushing their store card to him. When he said he was going to pay cash, they asked which bank his check was coming from. He told the manager he gives up and will
    shop elsewhere. Of all the years I've known the guy, when he leaves the house to shop, he has around $5000 in cash. When he said he'll pay in cash, h e meant it.

    5k in cash is a lot of money physically. this guy is a crazy motherfucker.
    he can't use a debit card or a casheer's check?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, July 15, 2022 13:56:59
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Fri Jul 15 2022 09:05 am


    Yeah, I sometimes like paying in cash because it's less hassle. Cash in

    the
    US also has the phrase "This is legal tender for all debts private and public" printed on it. I thought that meant you legally have to accept cash for payment and can't make customers use another form of payment if they want to use cash.

    try paying a fine with pennies.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Friday, July 15, 2022 21:36:00
    MRO wrote to Moondog <=-

    for the store's credit card and get a discount. He kept saying no. He got mad and asked to see the manager, then the manager tired pushing their store card to him. When he said he was going to pay cash, they asked which bank his check was coming from. He told the manager he gives up and will
    shop elsewhere. Of all the years I've known the guy, when he leaves the house to shop, he has around $5000 in cash. When he said he'll pay in cash, h e meant it.

    5k in cash is a lot of money physically.

    We're not talking about the $1 bills that you carry for the strippers.

    It's only 50 bills, assuming Benjamins. Less than 1/4" thick.

    this guy is a crazy motherfucker. he can't use a debit card or a
    casheer's check?

    Both of those leave a "paper trail". Maybe he doesn't want to do that.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Saturday, July 16, 2022 00:25:00
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Fri Jul 15 2022 09:05 am

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Fri Jul 15 2022 02:04 am

    Here in the US they would like to phase out some of the larger bills fo the same reason. Farmers tend to pay cash. I ran into a neighbor at the farm supply store, and he looked unhappy. He told me he was there to bu $3500 zero turn radius mower, and the salesman kept asking if he wanted apply for the store's credit card and get a discount. He kept saying no He got mad and asked to see the manager, then the manager tired pushing their store card to him. When he said he was going to pay cash, they as which bank his check was coming from. He told the manager he gives up a

    When you said cash, I thought you meant actual cash, but I suppose a check i

    will shop elsewhere. Of all the years I've known the guy, when he leave the house to shop, he has around $5000 in cash. When he said he'll pay cash, h e meant it.

    People who buy and trade used cars also do cash transactions because ca is no hassle and can be re-spent easily.

    Yeah, I sometimes like paying in cash because it's less hassle. Cash in the tomers use another form of payment if they want to use cash.

    Nightfox


    For some reason they doubted my neighbor had actual cash, and assumed he
    meant a check from checking/ savings.

    When I first met my sister's current boyfriend, we were talking about random things, then he asked me how much cash do I usually carry on me, or at least how much does an average IT guy carry? I told him that's an awkard question, and ask him where it going to? He asks what we do when the young guy at work needs to sell a pistol, rifle, or something else off? i told him that rarely ever happens, except when a guy gets separated or divorced.

    To fill out missing pieces, he programs CNC machines but was trained as a
    mold maker. He told me most shops have experienced machinists and programmers
    that get paid well, but there will also be apprentices that work part of the day and go to school for the other half. For some of these kids, this is the first real money they have made, and they get stupid and buy expensive
    things, then in a week have to re-sell them in order to pay bills or make
    car payments. They'll bring whatever toys they cannot afford into work,
    hoping a co-worker is carrying cash. He siad it was common for a co-worker
    to carry between 500 to a thousand dollars in cash.

    For one summer I worked with a contractor who would paid on Thursday, then
    ask for a loan on Friday, but he'd want the buyer to act as a pawn shop. Aything he sold you he wanted to buy back later. I never wanted to get
    messed up in deal like that or loan money i didn't know when iut would be paid
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Saturday, July 16, 2022 00:38:00
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: MRO to Moondog on Fri Jul 15 2022 01:54 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Fri Jul 15 2022 02:04 am

    for the store's credit card and get a discount. He kept saying no. He g mad and asked to see the manager, then the manager tired pushing their st card to him. When he said he was going to pay cash, they asked which ban his check was coming from. He told the manager he gives up and will
    shop elsewhere. Of all the years I've known the guy, when he leaves the house to shop, he has around $5000 in cash. When he said he'll pay in ca h e meant it.

    5k in cash is a lot of money physically. this guy is a crazy motherfucker. he can't use a debit card or a casheer's check?

    He deals in cash at the greenhouse on his farm, so he has cash. The only
    time they use checks or credit is when they buy a tractor or combine that
    costs over $250,000. He and his brothers and sisters's families run their parent's farm after their parents passed away, and they farm several thousand acres and run several greenhouses rasing flowers and vegetables. They also
    run a bar down the road for a few hours in the afternoons when they get down with chores. The greenhouses and bar take cash only.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Saturday, July 16, 2022 00:40:00
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Fri Jul 15 2022 01:56 pm

    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Fri Jul 15 2022 09:05 am


    Yeah, I sometimes like paying in cash because it's less hassle. Cash in

    the
    US also has the phrase "This is legal tender for all debts private and public" printed on it. I thought that meant you legally have to accept ca for payment and can't make customers use another form of payment if they want to use cash.

    try paying a fine with pennies.

    I have a water cooler bottle full of pennies. i need to remove some and cash them in before the bottle is too heavy to move.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Friday, July 15, 2022 12:51:00
    Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-

    People who buy and trade used cars also do cash transactions because
    cash is no hassle and can be re-spent easily.

    I'd love to buy cash, but my bank doesn't have local branches where I could
    go take out that much money.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to MRO on Saturday, July 16, 2022 14:50:00
    On 7/11/22 20:06, MRO wrote:

    why do you have a seedbox in amsterdam? your speeds must suck ass.
    just use a canadian server.

    Amsterdam doesn't have a treaty (trade aggreement) that requires it to
    respect US copyright law, so they through the DMCA notices in the trash
    on your behalf. Canadian providers could and if pressed, would likely
    turn over your user or at least IP information and then they'd notify
    your internet provider who would likely cut your service if there's
    multiple complaints.

    Speed isn't really a problem, my service level gives me 20MB up, which
    is pretty easy to max out... but I queue up my downloads in filezilla
    (SFTP) and it usually takes less than 10min to finish them all...
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Saturday, July 16, 2022 14:53:20
    On 7/12/22 00:37, Arelor wrote:

    It is not too far fetched to suppose that one day they may want to
    force a car manufacturer to prevent people from driving to a protest, arguing that if the car manufacturer allows it, it will be acting as a facilitator for an illegal protest.

    In China, they recently revoked the "Electronic ID" of anyone who
    mentioned attending a given protest... guess who couldn't travel on
    public transportation, access the internet or their own bank account.

    I don't think the US is beyond doing this at some point, given current trends... and I'm pretty certain that Australia and Canado would do it
    at this point.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Saturday, July 16, 2022 15:04:01
    On 7/12/22 09:07, Nightfox wrote:

    Part of what I was saying (which you didn't include in your quote) was
    that I doubt a car maker would even know what politics their customers
    have. How would they know that?

    Voter registration, property registration, and often driver's license
    and vehicle registration are considered public information... if they
    have your Name and address, that's generally enough, for that matter
    your Name and Zip code. There are commercial services that will sift
    through TONS of data to correlate more than that. Financial
    institutions will sell creditability/worthiness as well. So at that
    point, can largely get all the relevant information just based on your name+zip, email or name+ip. This gets further ingrained with probability scores based on your Email Address and IP.

    I worked at a company a few years ago that could correlate a crap ton of information just on your email+ip address. The email correlation was
    mostly to establish if you were a real person. It was mostly to flag
    credit applications for manual review, or to limit entries into online contests.

    I also worked on the system that manages email marketing at a major
    credit card company... I was so sick to my stomach at the end of the 6
    month contract, didn't renew, I just left and didn't want to go back.
    I'm not opposed to working in/with marketing tech in general, but some
    of the dark patterns used and the ways big data gets correlated is
    freakishly scary.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Saturday, July 16, 2022 20:57:49
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Sat Jul 16 2022 02:50 pm

    On 7/11/22 20:06, MRO wrote:

    why do you have a seedbox in amsterdam? your speeds must suck ass.
    just use a canadian server.

    Amsterdam doesn't have a treaty (trade aggreement) that requires it to respect US copyright law, so they through the DMCA notices in the trash
    on your behalf. Canadian providers could and if pressed, would likely
    turn over your user or at least IP information and then they'd notify
    your internet provider who would likely cut your service if there's
    multiple complaints.

    i've been doing this for years. non usa ones just ignore everything.
    they absolutely would not alert your internet provider.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Sunday, July 17, 2022 09:20:00
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Tracker1 to Arelor on Sat Jul 16 2022 02:53 pm

    On 7/12/22 00:37, Arelor wrote:

    It is not too far fetched to suppose that one day they may want to
    force a car manufacturer to prevent people from driving to a protest, arguing that if the car manufacturer allows it, it will be acting as a facilitator for an illegal protest.

    In China, they recently revoked the "Electronic ID" of anyone who
    mentioned attending a given protest... guess who couldn't travel on
    public transportation, access the internet or their own bank account.

    I don't think the US is beyond doing this at some point, given current trends... and I'm pretty certain that Australia and Canado would do it
    at this point.
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    It looks like they eliminated passes and cards and put everything into phone apps. That would indeed make it easier to limit someone through a single poin t of attack.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Monday, July 18, 2022 16:10:00
    In China, they recently revoked the "Electronic ID" of anyone who
    mentioned attending a given protest... guess who couldn't travel on
    public transportation, access the internet or their own bank account.

    I don't think the US is beyond doing this at some point, given current trends... and I'm pretty certain that Australia and Canado would do it
    at this point.

    Canada has done something like that recently. I don't know about an "Electronic ID," but they froze the bank accounts of several persons they
    were able to ID as participating in the protests earlier this year. Unlike
    the US protests of recent years, they really were mostly peaceful, but Trudolf... er, Trudeau, found them to be very threatening. :(


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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Moondog on Tuesday, July 19, 2022 19:05:59
    Re: Re: What are you reading.
    By: Moondog to Tracker1 on Sun Jul 17 2022 09:20 am

    It looks like they eliminated passes and cards and put everything into phone apps. That would indeed make it easier to limit someone through a single poin t of attack.

    Geez, but everybody LOVES phone apps!

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