• 3.5 floppies

    From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Rob Mccart on Sunday, February 15, 2026 15:38:00
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    I don't recall hearing anyone call them "microfloppies".

    I still have a couple of original boxes of them here and they call
    them Microfloppies right on the box.

    [...]

    Yes, it's the disk that is floppy, not the sleeve it comes in.. B)

    This outfit is repurposing them this way:

    https://atticjournals.com/collections/other-bookish-goods/products/floppy- disc-notepad

    A novelty. But I wouldn't pay that much for that.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Sunday, February 15, 2026 20:28:31
    Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: Ogg to Rob Mccart on Sun Feb 15 2026 03:38 pm

    I still have a couple of original boxes of them here and they call them
    Microfloppies right on the box.

    [...]

    Yes, it's the disk that is floppy, not the sleeve it comes in.. B)

    That may be, but it was common to just call the whole thing a floppy disk.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Monday, February 16, 2026 10:31:50
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    That may be, but it was common to just call the whole thing a floppy
    disk.

    I think I mentioned this before, when there were 8 inch floppies, they
    were called "floppy" disks. 5 1/4 were mini-floppies, until 8 inch
    floppies became rare, then they became floppies. When 3 1/2" floppies
    came around, they were microfloppies, until they became the standard.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, February 16, 2026 14:08:00
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon Feb 16 2026 10:31 am

    That may be, but it was common to just call the whole thing a floppy
    disk.

    I think I mentioned this before, when there were 8 inch floppies, they were called "floppy" disks. 5 1/4 were mini-floppies, until 8 inch floppies became rare, then they became floppies. When 3 1/2" floppies came around, they were microfloppies, until they became the standard.

    Maybe it's regional, but I don't recall anyone ever calling the 3 1/2" ones "microfloppies". Just 3 & 1/2" floppies or 3 & 1/2" floppy disks.

    Nightfox

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Monday, February 16, 2026 17:56:39
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 16 2026 02:08 pm

    Maybe it's regional, but I don't recall anyone ever calling the 3 1/2" ones "microfloppies". Just 3 & 1/2" floppies or 3 & 1/2" floppy disks.

    I think what he meant is that was what was printed on the packaging, vs what people in the real world actually say out of their mouths when referring to said object.

    Do people "call" them miniSIM, microSIM, and nanoSIM when referring to the little cards they used to put in their phones? No, they call them SIM cards. Doesn't mean they didn't have some other "official" name :D.

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OGG on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 08:05:20
    I still have a couple of original boxes of them here and they call
    them Microfloppies right on the box.

    This outfit is repurposing them this way:

    https://atticjournals.com/collections/other-bookish-goods/products/floppy-
    >disc-notepad

    A novelty. But I wouldn't pay that much for that.

    Ha, yes.. A bit pricey and I'm not sure I'd be interested in any case..

    I guess it's a case of us old people just seeing old junk and young
    people seeing valuable antiques.. B)

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  • From Mortar@VERT/EOTLBBS to Nightfox on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 10:05:06
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 16 2026 14:08:00

    Maybe it's regional, but I don't recall anyone ever calling the 3 1/2" ones "microfloppies". Just 3 & 1/2" floppies or 3 & 1/2" floppy disks.

    I just did a search on Google Images for "Micro Floppies" and sure enough, companies did use the term on their packaging. We call them floppies out of conveinance. Houmans love to verbally abbreviate things.

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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to phigan on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 12:12:00
    On 16 Feb 2026, phigan said the following...

    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 16 2026 02:08 pm

    Maybe it's regional, but I don't recall anyone ever calling the 3 1/2" "microfloppies". Just 3 & 1/2" floppies or 3 & 1/2" floppy disks.

    I think what he meant is that was what was printed on the packaging, vs what people in the real world actually say out of their mouths when referring to said object.

    Do people "call" them miniSIM, microSIM, and nanoSIM when referring to
    the little cards they used to put in their phones? No, they call them
    SIM cards. Doesn't mean they didn't have some other "official" name :D.

    it seems most of the companies settled on "diskette" so that's what i always called them. in fact i remember having a conversation with someone where we were using 'disk' for 5 1/4" and diskette for 3 1/2" so at least at one point that must have been a thing too..

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 09:34:50
    Do people "call" them miniSIM, microSIM, and nanoSIM when referring to the little cards they used to put in their phones? No, they call them SIM cards. Doesn't mean they didn't have some other "official" name :D.

    I mostly agree with this, although IIRC for a while they was a modifier
    applied to the smaller SIM cards back when phones took different sizes.


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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 21:53:38
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Feb 16 2026 02:08 pm

    That may be, but it was common to just call the whole thing a
    floppy disk.

    Maybe it's regional, but I don't recall anyone ever calling the 3 1/2" ones "microfloppies". Just 3 & 1/2" floppies or 3 & 1/2" floppy disks.

    We just called them 3 1/2 Diskettes or Disks.

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to fusion on Tuesday, February 17, 2026 22:02:10
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: fusion to phigan on Tue Feb 17 2026 12:12 pm

    where we were using 'disk' for 5 1/4" and diskette for 3 1/2" so at least at one point that must have been a thing too..

    Same.

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wednesday, February 18, 2026 07:58:03
    I think I mentioned this before, when there were 8 inch floppies, they
    were called "floppy" disks. 5 1/4 were mini-floppies, until 8 inch
    floppies became rare, then they became floppies. When 3 1/2" floppies came around, they were microfloppies, until they became the standard.

    Maybe it's regional, but I don't recall anyone ever calling the 3 1/2" ones "
    >rofloppies". Just 3 & 1/2" floppies or 3 & 1/2" floppy disks.

    You're right about what most people called them, but I have old boxes
    of the 3 1/2" ones and it does say Microfloppies on the label.

    Later ones may have just said High Density 3 1/2" floppies..

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  • From Bobby@VERT/X4D2ORG to Rob Mccart on Saturday, February 21, 2026 09:14:22
    Rob Mccart wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    You're right about what most people called them, but I have old boxes
    of the 3 1/2" ones and it does say Microfloppies on the label.

    My first real computer job was with a Honeywell-Bull VAR. They had 8 inch floppy discs on some of their DPS mini and maimframe computers.. Looked just like a 5.25 inch floppy only bigger.

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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BOBBY on Monday, February 23, 2026 07:51:47
    My first real computer job was with a Honeywell-Bull VAR. They had 8 inch
    >floppy discs on some of their DPS mini and maimframe computers.. Looked just
    >like a 5.25 inch floppy only bigger.

    I've never seen an 8 inch one. Some were probably still around when
    I got into computers (1983) but likley those bigger ones were more
    corporate than for home use, and it was me who bought and set up
    the computers at the company where I was working at the time rather
    than me having to adapt to what they were using.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Rob Mccart on Monday, February 23, 2026 07:06:41
    Rob Mccart wrote to BOBBY <=-

    I've never seen an 8 inch one. Some were probably still around when
    I got into computers (1983) but likley those bigger ones were more corporate than for home use, and it was me who bought and set up
    the computers at the company where I was working at the time rather
    than me having to adapt to what they were using.

    My first corporate IT job was in 1991 at a home/kitchen retailer, they
    ran their operations on a S/36 and 2 AS/400s. We used IBM PS/2 model
    80s running OS/2. I recall an 8 inch floppy drive and floppy disks in
    the server room.

    The weird thing was that I took a job in local government in 2017, and
    in the server room was one last AS/400 with an IBM PS2 model 80 running
    OS/2 that they used to to local tape restores. Serious Deja Vu.




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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, February 23, 2026 09:10:56
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Rob Mccart on Mon Feb 23 2026 07:06 am

    The weird thing was that I took a job in local government in 2017, and in the server room was one last AS/400 with an IBM PS2 model 80 running OS/2 that they used to to local tape restores. Serious Deja Vu.

    I've heard the US government tends to use technology for a fairly long time. If it's not broken, don't fix it.. Some years ago, I'd heard they were still using a computer system from the 70s, though they may have replaced it by now. And I've heard there are still some COBOL jobs, mainly in the government for old computer systems.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, February 23, 2026 19:35:58
    Re: Re: 3.5 floppies
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Rob Mccart on Mon Feb 23 2026 07:06 am

    My first corporate IT job was in 1991 at a home/kitchen retailer,
    they ran their operations on a S/36 and 2 AS/400s. We used IBM PS/2
    model 80s running OS/2. I recall an 8 inch floppy drive and floppy


    after 20 years i have seen you say about 10+ different things when you post
    'my first corporate it job'


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Tuesday, February 24, 2026 07:16:19
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I've heard the US government tends to use technology for a fairly long time. If it's not broken, don't fix it.. Some years ago, I'd heard
    they were still using a computer system from the 70s, though they may
    have replaced it by now. And I've heard there are still some COBOL
    jobs, mainly in the government for old computer systems.

    What killed me about that job was my boss telling me that in preparation
    for my coming, he'd cleaned up the server room and e-wasted "pallets" of
    IBM ATs. Those would have been worth a LOT - and I would have taken one
    home!



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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, February 25, 2026 07:58:49
    The weird thing was that I took a job in local government in 2017, and
    > in the server room was one last AS/400 with an IBM PS2 model 80 running
    > OS/2 that they used to to local tape restores. Serious Deja Vu.

    After I got away from normal employment and started doing things on
    my own, I did a lot of computer work for people needing help, repairs
    and upgrades, and various things for multiple businesses and tourist
    resorts up here, but one on my big customers was the local Township
    (think 'County') government offices.

    I was amazed when I first started working there at the equipment
    they were using to run the place. It was a long while back but
    at least 33k modems were out by then and they were still using a
    single 300 baud modem for 3 very old networked computers.

    I can understand not spending money to upgrade if you don't need
    it but you'd think the time spent sending and receiving data
    would have had those they dealt with complaining about how long
    it took to get anything through them...

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Rob Mccart on Thursday, February 26, 2026 07:39:26
    Rob Mccart wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    I can understand not spending money to upgrade if you don't need
    it but you'd think the time spent sending and receiving data
    would have had those they dealt with complaining about how long
    it took to get anything through them...

    Conversely, there are solutions that just work. Back in the '90s, when
    you networked voicemail systems, you tied in a data modem. If someone
    needed to forward a voicemail off-PBX to another site, the modem would
    dial out to the other system and transfer sounds files using Xmodem.
    Since they were fairly small, it just worked. Later on, they'd use
    something like FTP over the network to get voicemail files from one
    site to another.



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  • From Rob Mccart@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Saturday, February 28, 2026 08:11:58
    I can understand not spending money to upgrade if you don't need
    it but you'd think the time spent sending and receiving data
    would have had those they dealt with complaining about how long
    it took to get anything through them...

    Conversely, there are solutions that just work. Back in the '90s, when
    > you networked voicemail systems, you tied in a data modem. If someone
    > needed to forward a voicemail off-PBX to another site, the modem would
    > dial out to the other system and transfer sounds files using Xmodem.
    > Since they were fairly small, it just worked. Later on, they'd use
    > something like FTP over the network to get voicemail files from one
    > site to another.

    If it works don't fix it.. B)

    Another thing, before I came along, the Township had all their computer
    work done remotely, software repairs and updates, by the 300 baud modem,
    which took forever, but I suppose they paid by the hour so the other end wouldn't much care..

    A year later I walked into the office one day (I worked from home, not
    there and they were just one of many customers) and I was introduced
    to the guy from WANG computers as their Computer Guru, which was sort
    of neat.. B)

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