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  • WebSocket support for SyncTERM

    From Tracker1@VERT to All on Friday, August 02, 2019 18:04:34
    Would be cool if SyncTERM supported WebSocket (WS/WSS) overlays for Telnet and Rlogin
    options. This way sysops would have the option to use reverse proxy networks (ngrok,
    traefic, cloudflare argo) to host their systems on their home networks even if their ISP blocks
    inbound server ports.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tracker1 on Friday, August 02, 2019 21:37:16
    Re: WebSocket support for SyncTERM
    By: Tracker1 to All on Fri Aug 02 2019 06:04 pm

    Would be cool if SyncTERM supported WebSocket (WS/WSS) overlays for Telnet and Rlogin
    options. This way sysops would have the option to use reverse proxy networks (ngrok,
    traefic, cloudflare argo) to host their systems on their home networks even if their ISP blocks
    inbound server ports.

    I mentioned this idea recently to Deuce on IRC. He didn't seem to see the need, but perhaps your request has more merit than mine. I've brought it to his attention. :-)

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Saturday, August 03, 2019 12:37:22
    Re: WebSocket support for SyncTERM
    By: Digital Man to Tracker1 on Fri Aug 02 2019 09:37 pm

    Re: WebSocket support for SyncTERM
    By: Tracker1 to All on Fri Aug 02 2019 06:04 pm

    Would be cool if SyncTERM supported WebSocket (WS/WSS) overlays for Telnet and Rlogin
    options. This way sysops would have the option to use reverse proxy networks (ngrok,
    traefic, cloudflare argo) to host their systems on their home networks even if their ISP blocks
    inbound server ports.

    I mentioned this idea recently to Deuce on IRC. He didn't seem to see the need, but perhaps your request has more merit than mine. I've brought it to his attention. :-)


    this is actually a good suggestion. there most certainly is a need if it will help with attackers. we would be able to use cloudflare and syncterm would be able to get through to our bbs, correct?
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  • From Tracker1@VERT to Digital Man on Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:12:25
    Would be cool if SyncTERM supported WebSocket (WS/WSS) overlays for
    Telnet and Rlogin options. This way sysops would have the option to
    use reverse proxy networks (ngrok, traefic, cloudflare argo) to host
    their systems on their home networks even if their ISP blocks
    inbound server ports.

    I mentioned this idea recently to Deuce on IRC. He didn't seem to see
    the need, but perhaps your request has more merit than mine. I've
    brought it to his attention. :-)

    Thanks. Yeah, I'd been looking at one of the reverse proxy overlays above and wanted to limit the external footprint to web only. But thought it would be cool to be able to use an external terminal over WSS. Also been playing with loading doors in containers (thinking DOSemu for text apps over the BBS, but isolated so local disk access isn't an issue, like saved games in zork or similar). Eventually I'll get motivated enough to finish something and put
    it out there.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT to MRO on Wednesday, August 07, 2019 10:14:53
    Would be cool if SyncTERM supported WebSocket (WS/WSS) overlays
    for Telnet and Rlogin options. This way sysops would have the
    option to use reverse proxy networks (ngrok, traefic, cloudflare
    argo) to host their systems on their home networks even if their
    ISP blocks inbound server ports.

    I mentioned this idea recently to Deuce on IRC. He didn't seem to
    see the need, but perhaps your request has more merit than mine.
    I've brought it to his attention. :-)

    this is actually a good suggestion. there most certainly is a need if it will help with attackers. we would be able to use cloudflare and syncterm would be able to get through to our bbs, correct?

    Yes, beyond that, the above services all offer public facing https, over a secure tunnel to your host system. You'd be able to run a web bbs even if
    your ISP blocks host ports (no mail still though). It would certainly limit the exposed external footprint of your system.
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  • From Alterego@VERT/ALTERANT to Tracker1 on Thursday, August 08, 2019 08:17:30
    Re: Re: WebSocket support for SyncTERM
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Wed Aug 07 2019 10:14 am

    Yes, beyond that, the above services all offer public facing https, over a secure tunnel to your host system. You'd be able to run a web bbs even if your ISP blocks host ports (no mail still though). It would certainly limit the exposed external footprint of your system.

    So there is another way as well, that we've played with in another network. Its using an opensource tool called "ZeroTier".

    With ZT, you create a new interface and virtual ethernet - and anybody else on that virtual ethernet can see you. Traffic between each system (which goes through the net) is encrypted.

    The main benefit I see, as that this "known" group of folks can access my ports, but the greater internet cannot. (And they can be the standard ports.)

    It only works if more folks join in.

    I dont use ZeroTier management from their cloud portal, but that works as well. If anybody is interested in playing, I'm happy to help.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Alterego on Thursday, August 08, 2019 12:43:00
    On 08-08-19 08:17, Alterego wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    I dont use ZeroTier management from their cloud portal, but that works
    as well. If anybody is interested in playing, I'm happy to help.

    ZeroTier works really well. I run my own ZT network, but I am using the web portal, because I couldn't find coherent documentation for setting up my own administration. I can also confirm that multiple ZT networks coexist well side by side and independently of each other. You could use a relay host with port 25 access on the public Internet as the MX for all ZT nodes on public DNS, and have a private DNS (e.g. using BIND views) that can be used to forward email to the actual destination via SMTP over the ZT network.


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  • From Tracker1@VERT to Alterego on Friday, August 09, 2019 15:32:16
    With ZT, you create a new interface and virtual ethernet - and
    anybody else on that virtual ethernet can see you. Traffic between
    each system (which goes through the net) is encrypted.

    Sounds like a simple peered VPN...
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