since you can customize text.dat colors, how do you customize the sbbsecho colors?

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Re: sbbsecho
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:48 pm

since you can customize text.dat colors, how do you customize the sbbsecho colors?

You don't. Unless you are willing and able to modify sbbsecho.c. I'll add it to the todo list though. Reading/using strings from sbbsecho.ini should be doable.

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Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Aug 04 2019 12:10 am

Re: sbbsecho
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:48 pm

since you can customize text.dat colors, how do you customize the sbbsecho colors?

You don't. Unless you are willing and able to modify sbbsecho.c. I'll add it to the todo list though. Reading/using strings from
sbbsecho.ini should be doable.

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that's great to hear. thank you so much. :-)

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Hey DM,

Would you consider sbbsecho.ini supporting a wildcard include?

eg: in sbbsecho.ini you have "include sbbsecho/*.ini"

Then, the placement of "abc.ini" in the dir sbbsecho/, which would present a new node "abc", could automatically be included when sbbsecho does its processing.

Much the same way other linux wildcard includes work..

I was thinking that would be useful for hubs where an external process could add the required ini file relatively easily and drop it in that dir for a new node.
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Re: sbbsecho
By: alterego to Digital Man on Fri Apr 03 2020 05:39 pm

Hey DM,

Would you consider sbbsecho.ini supporting a wildcard include?

eg: in sbbsecho.ini you have "include sbbsecho/*.ini"

Then, the placement of "abc.ini" in the dir sbbsecho/, which would present a new node "abc", could automatically be included when sbbsecho does its processing.

Much the same way other linux wildcard includes work..

I was thinking that would be useful for hubs where an external process could add the required ini file relatively easily and drop it in that dir for a new node.

The .ini files already support a "!include" directive. It doesn't support wildcards, thought I suppose it could pretty easily.

The problem with that directive and the reason why it's rarely, if ever, used, is editing with a configuration program (e.g. echocfg). Once the file has been "merge" in memory with the !include directive, there's no way for the program to know to re-split the file when saving changes. The program doesn't know what lines came from which files and where to put them back.

So yeah, I could help you to do that, but if you ever used echocfg to edit your sbbsecho.ini, it'd be all merged together into one giant file and likely not what you were hoping for.

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Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 03 2020 12:41 am

So yeah, I could help you to do that, but if you ever used echocfg to edit your sbbsecho.ini, it'd be all merged together into one
giant file and likely not what you were hoping for.

Your right, this probably wouldnt be ideal. But for the other reason, I think it would be great.

A step further might be a !include fsx/* - where the could be node ini files, with also domain and echolist ini files (they dont have to be in order do they?) - then config packs could be provided by othernets (if they desired).

If you do implement it (I would still use it), can you make echocfg "warn" when it is invoked, if it detects that the config has been created with included files - just in case somebody goes to use it (out of habit) and the result would be as you say a giant file. (Or by default echocfg ignores included files?)

Just throwing out ideas...
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Re: sbbsecho
By: alterego to Digital Man on Fri Apr 03 2020 09:10 pm

Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 03 2020 12:41 am

So yeah, I could help you to do that, but if you ever used echocfg to edit your sbbsecho.ini, it'd be all merged together into one
giant file and likely not what you were hoping for.

Your right, this probably wouldnt be ideal. But for the other reason, I think it would be great.

Okay, this is a feature that *you* would use and then never use echocfg again?

A step further might be a !include fsx/* - where the could be node ini files, with also domain and echolist ini files (they dont have to be in order do they?) - then config packs could be provided by othernets (if they desired).

I think my new init-fidonet.js/ini solves the "config pack" problem already. If a new net comes along, they could just create/release a .ini file that is compatible with init-fidonet.js.

If you do implement it (I would still use it), can you make echocfg "warn" when it is invoked, if it detects that the config has been created with included files - just in case somebody goes to use it (out of habit) and the result would be as you say a giant file. (Or by default echocfg ignores included files?)

Yeah, probably.

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Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 03 2020 08:52 am

If you do implement it (I would still use it), can you make echocfg "warn" when it is invoked, if it detects that the config has been created with included files - just in case somebody goes to use it (out of habit) and the result would be as you say a giant file. (Or by default echocfg ignores included files?)

Yeah, probably.

So here's another issue:

SBBSecho itself can update the sbbsecho.ini file in response to AreaFix requests (e.g. changing archive type). This will also expand the sbbsecho.ini to include all the !include'd files, currently. That will also have to be addressed.

Also, assuming that first problem is addressed, if the updated node configuration was *within* one of those !include'd files, that node couldn't be updated via AreaFix or bad things would happen.

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Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 03 2020 08:52 am

If you do implement it (I would still use it), can you make echocfg "warn" when it is invoked, if it detects that the config has been created
with included files - just in case somebody goes to use it (out of habit)
and the result would be as you say a giant file. (Or by default echocfg ignores included files?)

Yeah, probably.

So here's another issue:

SBBSecho itself can update the sbbsecho.ini file in response to AreaFix requests (e.g. changing archive type). This will also expand the sbbsecho.ini to include all the !include'd files, currently. That will also have to be addressed.

Also, assuming that first problem is addressed, if the updated node configuration was *within* one of those !include'd files, that node couldn't be updated via AreaFix or bad things would happen.

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Interesting topic.

I admit that like that feature because i am used to "debian.d" includes.

You can easy manage the ini file via the *crudini* tool

The problem are that echocfg generate indents for the options/values
pairs, and raise error for this tool to parse the file.

See: https://github.com/pixelb/crudini/issues/30

[node:4:90/1@fidonet]
<TAB>Name = Momia BBS
<TAB>Comment = Manuel Adorni
<TAB>Archive = ZIP
<TAB>PacketType = 2+


If you can add option that echocfg to generate the file without these
tab, just work

[node:4:90/1@fidonet]
Name = Momia BBS
Comment = Manuel Adorni
Archive = ZIP
PacketType = 2+


# crudini --get sbbsecho.ini "node:4:90/1@fidonet" name
Momia BBS


you can add a node:
crudini --set sbbsecho.ini "node:4:9/9@fidonet" name "FErnando Toledo"
crudini --set sbbsecho.ini "node:4:9/9@fidonet" Archive ZIP
etc...

change the Areafix password:

crudini --set sbbsecho.ini "node:4:9/9@fidonet" AreaFixPwd PEPITO

it's will avoid the use of awk/sed parsings

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Re: Re: sbbsecho
By: Ragnarok to Digital Man on Fri Apr 03 2020 05:11 pm

Interesting topic.

I admit that like that feature because i am used to "debian.d" includes.

You can easy manage the ini file via the *crudini* tool

The problem are that echocfg generate indents for the options/values
pairs, and raise error for this tool to parse the file.

See: https://github.com/pixelb/crudini/issues/30

[node:4:90/1@fidonet]
<TAB>Name = Momia BBS
<TAB>Comment = Manuel Adorni
<TAB>Archive = ZIP
<TAB>PacketType = 2+

If you can add option that echocfg to generate the file without these
tab, just work

It's easier to just change the .ini style (eliminate the indents).

you can add a node:
crudini --set sbbsecho.ini "node:4:9/9@fidonet" name "FErnando Toledo" crudini --set sbbsecho.ini "node:4:9/9@fidonet" Archive ZIP

Nice tip!

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Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 03 2020 11:14 am

Also, assuming that first problem is addressed, if the updated node configuration was *within* one of those !include'd files, that node couldn't be updated via AreaFix or bad things would happen.

Ahh, OK, that goes against my goal of automation and self service. I agree that is not desirable, so perhaps this is not a good idea after all.

Thanks for going through it though...
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Re: sbbsecho
By: alterego to Digital Man on Sat Apr 04 2020 09:01 am

Re: sbbsecho
By: Digital Man to alterego on Fri Apr 03 2020 11:14 am

Also, assuming that first problem is addressed, if the updated node configuration was *within* one of those !include'd files, that node couldn't be updated via AreaFix or bad things would happen.

Ahh, OK, that goes against my goal of automation and self service. I agree that is not desirable, so perhaps this is not a good idea after all.

Thanks for going through it though...

Yup. And as a result now, echocfg will refuse to save changes to a .ini file that !include's another. :-)

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Re: sbbsecho
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:48 pm

You don't. Unless you are willing and able to modify sbbsecho.c. I'll add it to the todo list though. Reading/using strings from sbbsecho.ini should be doable.

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Why not add the lines to text.dat instead?

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Re: sbbsecho
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Fri Apr 03 2020 03:52 pm

Re: sbbsecho
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Sat Aug 03 2019 02:48 pm

You don't. Unless you are willing and able to modify sbbsecho.c. I'll add it to the todo list though. Reading/using strings from sbbsecho.ini should be doable.

Why not add the lines to text.dat instead?

The text.dat is really for use by the terminal server, not external utilities.

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